Dont Pass/DC

Laying odds against the points 5 and 9 is for the most part relatively easy but sometimes these players will 'stack it up' on you. But before we go down that road we need to know what the maximum lay odds limit is. Let's say a casino allows 2X Odds. Let's say I bet $5 on pass line and and $10 odds. The odds pay $15. Well, that $15 would be the limit on a $5 flat bet 2x odds LAY bet.

Let's say it's a 10x odds casino and I bet $5 on the pass line and take $50 odds which pay $75 - I could lay up to $75 to win $50 at 10 x odds with a $5 flat bet.

In the case of the common 3-4-5 X Odds many casinos have, you can Lay up to 6X the Don't Pass & DC bet

Simply reverse the flat bet and think if the player were betting on the pass line, how much can they bet limit in odds? What would that limit amount pay? That number would be maximum LAY odds same flat bet amount.

Let's say it's a 10x odds casino and I bet $5 on the pass line and take $50 odds which pay $75 - I could lay up to $75 to win $50 at 10 x odds with a $5 flat bet.

In the case of the common 3-4-5 X Odds many casinos have, you can Lay up to 6X the Don't Pass & DC bet

__after any Point.__Simply reverse the flat bet and think if the player were betting on the pass line, how much can they bet limit in odds? What would that limit amount pay? That number would be maximum LAY odds same flat bet amount.

As I do throughout the site, I use the "First Nine” bets and payoffs.

We will be laying odds at 3:2 meaning the player has the option to bet free odds, no house advantage, each unit of 3 wins 2 because as you should know there are 6 ways to roll a 7 and only 4 ways to roll 5 or 9. This player is favored to win thus must wager more to win less.

The good news is that most dark side players know what they are doing.

The bad news is that novice players need to be monitored to insure their bets are proper increments of three.

The First Nine bets (3x1 thru 3x9) will get you out

If you understand that, it's easy to pay rare but difficult lay odds bets. With experience you will pay many of these bets by color. But when you are new it's best knowing 3x1 - 3x9 Don't be afraid of the dark.

Examples of breaking a bet down

Within the $36 Lay odds

you have a $30 bet and a $6 bet

30 pays 20

6 pays 4

20 + 4 = 24

Look at "36" The 3 pays 2, the 6 pays 4. Easy right? Not so much when its chips however.

4 red and 16 white is 36. That alone will look like something from outer space when you are new.

Just run the stack down and get a number. In this case 36. Break it down in your head 30 pays 20, 6 pays 4

Within the $69 Lay odds

you have a $60 bet and a $9 bet

60 pays 40

9 pays 6

40 + 6 = 46

If 6 pays 4 then

Within the $93 lay odds

you have a $90 bet and a $3 bet

90 pays 60

3 pays 2

60 + 2 = 62

If 9 pays 6 then

Within the $126 LAY odds

you have a $120 bet and a $6 bet

120 pays 80

6 pays 4

80 + 4 = 84

if 12 pays 8 then

Within the $162 LAY odds

you have a $150 bet and a $12 bet

150 pays 100

12 pays 8

100 + 8 = 108

if 15 pays 10 then

Within the $198 LAY odds

you have a $180 bet and a $18 bet

180 pays 120

18 pays 12

120 + 12 = 132

Within the $216 LAY odds

you have a $210 bet and a $6 bet

210 pays 140

6 pays 4

140 + 4 = 144

If 21 pays 14 then

Within the $252 LAY odds

you have a $240 bet and a $12 bet

240 pays 160

12 pays 8

160 + 8 = 168

Within the $294 LAY odds

you have a $270 bet and a $24 bet

(270 pays 180

24 pays 16

180 + 16 = 196

We will be laying odds at 3:2 meaning the player has the option to bet free odds, no house advantage, each unit of 3 wins 2 because as you should know there are 6 ways to roll a 7 and only 4 ways to roll 5 or 9. This player is favored to win thus must wager more to win less.

The good news is that most dark side players know what they are doing.

The bad news is that novice players need to be monitored to insure their bets are proper increments of three.

The First Nine bets (3x1 thru 3x9) will get you out

__every time__when the shit hits the fan ….**If 3 pays 2**/ 30 pays 20**If****6 pays 4**/ 60 pays 40**If****9 pays 6**/ 90 pays 60**If****12 pays 8**/ 120 pays 80**If****15 pays 10**/ 150 pays 100**If****18 pays 12**/ 180 pays 120**If****21 pays 14**/ 210 pays 140**If****24 pays 16**/ 240 pays 160**If****27 pays 18**/ 270 pays 180If you understand that, it's easy to pay rare but difficult lay odds bets. With experience you will pay many of these bets by color. But when you are new it's best knowing 3x1 - 3x9 Don't be afraid of the dark.

Examples of breaking a bet down

**Lay 36 wins 24**Within the $36 Lay odds

you have a $30 bet and a $6 bet

30 pays 20

6 pays 4

20 + 4 = 24

Look at "36" The 3 pays 2, the 6 pays 4. Easy right? Not so much when its chips however.

4 red and 16 white is 36. That alone will look like something from outer space when you are new.

Just run the stack down and get a number. In this case 36. Break it down in your head 30 pays 20, 6 pays 4

**Lay 69 wins 46**Within the $69 Lay odds

you have a $60 bet and a $9 bet

60 pays 40

9 pays 6

40 + 6 = 46

If 6 pays 4 then

**6**0 pays**4**0**Lay 93 wins 62**Within the $93 lay odds

you have a $90 bet and a $3 bet

90 pays 60

3 pays 2

60 + 2 = 62

If 9 pays 6 then

**9**0 pays**6**0**Lay 126 wins 84**Within the $126 LAY odds

you have a $120 bet and a $6 bet

120 pays 80

6 pays 4

80 + 4 = 84

if 12 pays 8 then

**12**0 pays**8**0**Lay 162 pays 108**Within the $162 LAY odds

you have a $150 bet and a $12 bet

150 pays 100

12 pays 8

100 + 8 = 108

if 15 pays 10 then

**15**0 pays**10**0**3 pays 2**/ 30 pays 20**6 pays 4**/ 60 pays 40**9 pays 6**/ 90 pays 60**12 pays 8**/ 120 pays 80**15 pays 10**/ 150 pays 100**18 pays 12**/ 180 pays 120**21 pays 14**/ 210 pays 140**24 pays 16**/ 240 pays 160**27 pays 18**/ 270 pays 180**Lay 198 pays 132**Within the $198 LAY odds

you have a $180 bet and a $18 bet

180 pays 120

18 pays 12

120 + 12 = 132

**Lay 216 pays 144**Within the $216 LAY odds

you have a $210 bet and a $6 bet

210 pays 140

6 pays 4

140 + 4 = 144

If 21 pays 14 then

**21**0 pays**14**0**252 = 168**Within the $252 LAY odds

you have a $240 bet and a $12 bet

240 pays 160

12 pays 8

160 + 8 = 168

**294 = 196**Within the $294 LAY odds

you have a $270 bet and a $24 bet

(270 pays 180

24 pays 16

180 + 16 = 196

**3 pays 2**/ 30 pays 20**6 pays 4**/ 60 pays 40**9 pays 6**/ 90 pays 60**12 pays 8**/ 120 pays 80**15 pays 10**/ 150 pays 100**18 pays 12**/ 180 pays 120**21 pays 14**/ 210 pays 140**24 pays 16**/ 240 pays 160**27 pays 18**/ 270 pays 180**IMPROPER BETS**

Novice players may simply bet any amount and If you have a box supervisor who will allow such bets then we will have some fun challenges ahead.

Example:

Lay 20 pays 13

Player LAYS $20 in odds.

18 pays 12

the remaining $2 pays $1

12 + 1 = 13

Huh? 2 pays 1?

Yup

$1.50 within pays $1

(15 pays 10, 150 pays 100)

That $2 bites many new dealers who don't consider anything less than 3 pays 2

Let's do another....

50 Pays 33

Player LAYS $50 in odds.

I see 30 paying 20

18 pays 12

30 + 12 = 32

the remaining $2 pays $1

32 + 1 = 33

Or 45 pays 30

3 pays 2

the remaining $2 pays $1

$50 LAY pays $33

YIKES!

Yes, some box supervisors allow players to bet whatever they want.

Why?...... Why not?

If a player asks what the proper amount should be, by all means tell them. But if they don't ask, leave them be. Let them have fun. Sometimes a dealer who is only trying to help injects themself into "advising" players proper bet amounts may make the player feel stupid and they leave the game to go play blackjack or slots. But if the box wants proper increments of three then do just that.

Some players don't want an education on how to play craps while they are on vacation. That's why some box supervisors aren't worried if the bet is proper or not. They will figure it out. No big deal. If the Lay Odds is over limit, the overage is paid as a bet to lose Lay 5% as we discussed in chapter 7.

Don't be afraid of the dark.

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